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Old 18-11-17, 09:03 PM   #11
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Last year Peter you were on the right side of U shape, when i came for a chat the U was virtually empty, space wasnt an issue last year.
Yes, I was surprised to see that also.

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Old 24-11-17, 10:39 PM   #12
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I was a regular exhibitor at Rushden 1986 to 2005 and you will all know that I don't rally Lister D's. After a few years break taking mother to Scotland on holiday, now I can't get back in and every time I have visited I have seen gaps in the engine line.

Forgot to say that after a similar amount of time at the Ross on Wye rally and a few years away due to mothers age etc, every time I see the stationary engine section leader he invites me back and we all know the standard of engines at Welland.

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Old 24-11-17, 10:58 PM   #13
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Stuart may I ask why you've never displayed a Lister D.

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Old 24-11-17, 11:40 PM   #14
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Stuart may I ask why you've never displayed a Lister D.

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I bought my first stationary engine at Rushden in 1986 a Wolesely WD8 that is still in the barn and has never been rallied, I also have a Lister D from the village given to me by the village baker and restored by Ron Tuck, there is a photo of it on the back of the Stationary Engine magazine, again I have never rallied it.

I can see that for the dedicated enthusiasts and rivet counters the Lister D is an interesting animal and well presented they make a good starter engine for the first season or two, but I was fortunate to come across an Amanco cheap and became hooked on engines that show the whole of the four cycles clearly for everyone to see and that show the variety of ways the early engineers interpreted the Otto cycle . I have lost count of the number of times I have seen men lean on a post for many minutes trying to fathom the workings of an open crack engine. these same men just walk past the Lister D as it is just a green box with a wheel going round.

Lister D's in small numbers are ok on a rally field but the key is presentation and all too many are just uninteresting ticket engines.

in over 30 years of rallying and many hundreds of rallies ( I have exhibited at 1000 engine for 30 years consecutively) I have rallied enclosed crank engines

Stuart Turner 3 times
Ruston PB 6 times
Bental Vertical once
Lister J twice

I have also owned other enclosed crank engines.
Victoria
Lister L
Lister M
Lister H
Glover Eagle
Pelapone

I have been lucky in the engines I have been able to acquire over the years however it is still possible to buy an interesting engine for less than the price of a decent trailer.
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Old 24-11-17, 11:43 PM   #15
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Don't judge Martin, people show what they can manage and you don't want to start the old entry ticket engines argument again.

EDIT; Crossed posts - I can see that the issue here is not one of entry ticket engines just Martin exercising his wooden spoon.

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Old 24-11-17, 11:57 PM   #16
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Don't judge Martin, people show what they can manage and you don't want to start the old entry ticket engines argument again.

EDIT; Crossed posts - I can see that the issue here is not one of entry ticket engines just Martin exercising his wooden spoon.

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Don't worry, I have known Martin for many years and live not too far from him.
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Old 25-11-17, 10:16 AM   #17
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Stuart will ignore me now when he is on his Fog machine He has/had some very nice engines over the years, his handle tells you one of them, its one of the slowest open cranks I've ever seen running.

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Old 25-11-17, 10:54 AM   #18
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The site has been on two farms historically, Lancaster Farm on the B645 and the current farm on the A6/Avenue road junction.

It is two miles from where we live.

The Cavalcade is quite a big event and finding space for everything when most local farms are fairly small does limit how much can be given to each section.

They do tend to bring back previous exhibitors, which is good if you are an existing one but not so good if you are a new one trying to get in, I understand the frustration and have been there myself.

There are also conditions set by the Police and local Council in respect of car parking and disturbance to local residents. Lancaster Farm wasn't a problem, but the current site has housing alongside the site.

What the long term plans are I don't know.

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Hi Peter,

Genuinely curious here (rather than any intention to stir), does Rushden Cavalcade predominantly concentrating on inviting previous exhibitors back mean that there tends to be generally the same exhibits each year?

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Old 25-11-17, 11:46 AM   #19
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Hi Peter,

Genuinely curious here (rather than any intention to stir), does Rushden Cavalcade predominantly concentrating on inviting previous exhibitors back mean that there tends to be generally the same exhibits each year?

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I think that the exhibitors probably stay the same, but the engines change.

Having said that, there must be an element of the same stuff as I have complained about it in previous years on the forum.

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I think that the exhibitors probably stay the same, but the engines change.

Having said that, there must be an element of the same stuff as I have complained about it in previous years on the forum.

Peter
That would be the bugbear for me, especially if I was on the spectator side, if the exhibits weren't changing much. Its a risk with working on the basis of same exhibitors each year. That being said, there are a number of rallies I go to year in year out, and I keep a record of what I took, so that it is not duplicated the following year.

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