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Old 01-09-16, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default 4 wheel Drawbar Turntable Trailer

As this is definitely going ahead now, I've started a new thread to hold the build details etc.

Today I have ordered and/or paid for the two axles, wheels and fittings and the 250 X 100 X 10mm box section for the bearing carriers.

We are using two Meredith & Eyre 1500kg axles with an Avonride 2750kg coupling.

Most of the front end will be identical to the 6 wheel trailer, just the engine compartment will be shortened and a bit taken out of the living area.

Body length is just under 5 metres, against 6.5 metres for the 6 wheel.

Weight will be reduced by revising the box section thicknesses, in size or material or both. We did play safe on the 6 wheel unit, but now we have 6 years use we know where we can apply some weight saving.

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Old 02-09-16, 08:59 AM   #2
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Looking through the boxes of stuff, we still have some left-over parts from the first build, so that will save a few pennies

Prices so far:

1500kg axle beams (2) including brake cables, compensator and M12 wheel bolts rather than studs and nut: 262.85 each plus VAT

165R12C 8 ply tyres plus rims (6) 96N load rating: 42.60 each plus VAT

2750kg trailer coupling Avonride: 199.99 inc VAT

1 length 250mmX100mmX10mm box, inc delivery: 171.95 plus VAT

Flange bearings UCF215-48 (2) 69.94 inc carriage & VAT

Thrust bearing 61315 46.00 inc carriage & VAT

M30 X 200 A2 stainless bolts (2) 38.00 inc VAT

More to come.

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Old 06-09-16, 08:08 AM   #3
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Chassis drawing is coming along.

Click on the thumbnail to open it then click it again to go full size.

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Old 08-09-16, 02:17 PM   #4
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I took the 6AP down to the weighbridge today to see what sort of weight it was, and it looks like 640kg all-up, including the heavy Lister trolley.

That's fine, both axles are 1500kg rating on 175R13C 8-ply tyres (was 165 but I've uprated them) so we should be OK for loading.

That is almost exactly half of the 1ZHR with the Start-O-Matic alternator.

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I took the 6AP down to the weighbridge today to see what sort of weight it was, and it looks like 640kg all-up, including the heavy Lister trolley.

That's fine, both axles are 1500kg rating on 175R13C 8-ply tyres (was 165 but I've uprated them) so we should be OK for loading.

That is almost exactly half of the 1ZHR with the Start-O-Matic alternator.

Peter
I've always thought my 6 AP gross weight including wheels and trolley was about 600kg just by doing some careful maths and using the Ruston quoted weights as a guide. Glad to hear I wasn't too far out. The wheels weigh about 20kg each.
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Old 09-09-16, 09:01 AM   #6
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Parts and material arriving daily, thrust and axial bearings for the pivot, M30 X 200 bolts to cut down for the drawbar pivot pins, M16 lashing eyes for the engine compartment (one more to arrive) and M30 cap head bolt for the lower pivot pin retainer.

We have just concluded a deal for a cooker/oven, fridge and water heater, plus the soft furnishings from an Elddis caravan.

Peter
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Old 09-09-16, 12:51 PM   #7
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Handy if you can drop on a scrap caravan for parts Peter. I have just sold that 14 foot Swift of ours for use on a construction site down south and only got 150 for it, and I had to fight for that as his original offer was 100. Everything worked fine on it, the radio alone cost me nearly that!

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Old 09-09-16, 01:03 PM   #8
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We did that twice, Pete, but this time we found a guy at the early stages of breaking his own one and after initially buying the cooker/fridge/water heater, we then bought the soft furnishings as well, got to have some comfort!

Breaking the first one, we got almost all our money back, the second one we just took out the bits we wanted and gave the rolling chassis to a local scrappie.

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Old 12-09-16, 01:27 AM   #9
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Hello all
I'll watch this thread with interest. The turntable has me thinking already.

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Old 17-09-16, 08:15 AM   #10
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Drawing Updates.

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