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Old 23-11-18, 10:12 PM   #1
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Any ideas? Seller says he has googled Hart Engines and found an interesting history but damned if I can come up with anything which looks relevant to this unit.

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Old 24-11-18, 01:58 PM   #2
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I tried googling Hart a few days ago, and found nothing relevant. Maybe you should ask him for some pointers.

Also, it doesn't look like a stationary engine to me, more like a motorcycle or scooter engine. The old brake drum its sitting on is a bit deceptive at first.

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Old 24-11-18, 04:00 PM   #3
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As Phillip says, the down facing exhaust and the mounting points in the casing looks like a bike engine, if I wanted more info I would contact Rick Partington from Classic Bike magazine, he seems to have an encyclopedic knowledge of vintage bikes

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Old 24-11-18, 06:33 PM   #4
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I agree that it looks more motorcycley but the usual suspects such as Sheldon's emu on-line and Erwin Tragatch in print didn't turn up anything.

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I thought that the crankcase looks a bit "heavy" for motorcycle use - perhaps more like a mower engine?

I didn't spot any evidence from the pictures that it is American. I wonder if the seller has been looking at Charles W. Hart of Hart Parr (later Oliver) tractor fame. They made a range of stationary versions of their early tractor engines...

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(snip) I tried googling Hart a few days ago, and found nothing relevant. Maybe you should ask him for some pointers.
I don't really like asking ebay sellers questions about things I have no intention of buying, smacks of tyre kicking. But...……..

"I can not remember how I got to hart engins but I can remember that the workers took over the factory they locked them selfs in & kept producing engins I believe in the early thirties".

Curiouser and curiouser!


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Old 25-11-18, 01:46 PM   #7
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There's a few references to Hart-Carter being associated with Lauson in the US.

The cover plate looks like it could just be a branded item to suit a piece of machinery fitted to A N Others engine?

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Old 25-11-18, 01:47 PM   #8
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Not much to add really...

In addition to Hart Parr, Meincke lists H. E. Hart of Beaver Dam Wisconsin who was active in 1904 and Hart Mfg Co of Detroit (who made stoves I believe...)

Wendel lists Henry C. Hart of Detroit, but suggests that they were little more than inventors.

Still not convinced it's American...

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Possibly one of Brian Hart's development engines? Doubtful, as virtually anything he used would have been aluminium from the get-go.

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Old 26-11-18, 03:14 PM   #10
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No reference to a "Hart" motorcycle in ' Tragatsch'.

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