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Old 11-11-14, 04:11 PM   #21
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Think it's same basic platform as Fabia - did it seem like something which would last ten years without falling apart?

BTW, do you imagine that I am the sort of person who is worried about a "bland" interior?! ;-)

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Um yea I would have said so, was bolted together well, it's a VW with out the VW snobbery...

I would rather have had an old 136 Rapid.....

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Old 11-11-14, 10:46 PM   #22
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BE very careful of the PSA 1.6 diesel, Nick. Must have had regular oil changes AND the correct oil! To preserve the turbo it is also best to change the oil at 8000 miles.

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Old 11-11-14, 11:27 PM   #23
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BE very careful of the PSA 1.6 diesel, Nick. Must have had regular oil changes AND the correct oil! To preserve the turbo it is also best to change the oil at 8000 miles.

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Hi Mark,

I've done 74000 miles so far with my PSA 1.6 HDi, and touch wood it has been excellent, very little wear on turbo thus far, and its been serviced at the 12k intervals.

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Old 12-11-14, 09:11 AM   #24
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Excellent engines when they are working but just look at the horror stories on t'net about blown turbo's and repeat failures!... and I know someone who had just that on a car that had done under 50k miles. Ended in a new engine from Peugeot's, allegedly cost the dealer 8k on a car that they sold for less.
Having said that, there are millions out there and they cant all be bad. Just be aware of the pitfalls.
My own car failed at 180k, the turbo worn out rather than failed (as we found out subsequently) but no one would guarantee a repair. To do the full Peugeot recommended rebuild was over 1500, a lot of dough to gamble with!

BTW the PSA 1.6 is used in Citroen, Peugeot, Ford, Mazda, Volvo and Mini to name just a few.
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Excellent engines when they are working but just look at the horror stories on t'net about blown turbo's and repeat failures!... and I know someone who had just that on a car that had done under 50k miles. Ended in a new engine from Peugeot's, allegedly cost the dealer 8k on a car that they sold for less.
Having said that, there are millions out there and they cant all be bad. Just be aware of the pitfalls.
My own car failed at 180k, the turbo worn out rather than failed (as we found out subsequently) but no one would guarantee a repair. To do the full Peugeot recommended rebuild was over 1500, a lot of dough to gamble with!

BTW the PSA 1.6 is used in Citroen, Peugeot, Ford, Mazda, Volvo and Mini to name just a few.
it gets about a bit Mark for sure!

actually, the worst cases centre around the Ford fitted examples, as the turbo oil feed pipes are undersized in those applications, and the initial feed on startup is poor. Citroen and Peugeot suffer less, but are by no means immune. New turbo internals are not hugely expensive, so long as it is only worn out.

We've had 5 PSA 1.6 HDi's thus far, 3 92HDi's and 2 110HDi's, all have been excellent.

I'm always weary of taking internet rants on face value, as lets be honest, those who write reviews, are usually those who want to have a rant about it, the ones that work well, unless they work brilliantly well, tend not to say so much.

I've been looking at a Yeti for my next motor, and to look on internet, engine failures! oil pumps! smoky! bad turbos! rotten doors, the list goes on, yet it scores right at the top of most real motoring surveys, and a friend of mine works as a technician in a Skoda dealership, they dont get any of these issues, certainly not in the volume that the internet ranters would imply.

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As stated earlier, I'm not really looking at diesels. My inclination is toward the new generation of three cylinder turbo petrol jobs - adequate power and a torque curve like Norfolk. Ford and Dacia (Renault) offer them and Skoda do a 1.2l four with similar characteristics but not offering quite the same economy.

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You are both right about the DV6 engine issues. Poor maintenance and long service intervals are the killers. They fill up with deposits, the oil pump wears out and normally it is the turbo that fails first. I have seen several where the engine runs an end shortly after the turbo has been done because it was basically running with low oil pressure. I have considered buying a couple of DV6 engined Focuses with dead turbos and rebuilding them. If doing the job on one of these I would always replace the oil pump, the feed pipe AND its filter and give it a jolly good clean out before even thinking of fitting the new turbo.


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Skoda do a 1.2l four with similar characteristics but not offering quite the same economy.

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Apparently the engine to avoid... underpowered for the size of the car.

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As stated earlier, I'm not really looking at diesels. My inclination is toward the new generation of three cylinder turbo petrol jobs - adequate power and a torque curve like Norfolk. Ford and Dacia (Renault) offer them and Skoda do a 1.2l four with similar characteristics but not offering quite the same economy.

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well if it helps Nick, the Ford 1.0L ecoboost engine has won engine of the year 3 years running, its the only one to have achieved it.

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Old 12-11-14, 11:23 AM   #30
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All that power and economy comes at a price when you have a small engine that is heavily tuned to perform.

Some of the bhp/litre figures coming out now are getting on for what would have been a good racing engine not that many years ago.

We've had very good results on the petrol/lpg V8's with 10W-40 semi-synthetic diesel oil, it's slightly more expensive than the petrol equivalent but does keep the engine clean internally.

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