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Old 16-06-17, 09:51 AM   #1
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A few days ago I got a call from someone I have known for a long time but not much contact in recent years. I always knew he had an interest in engines and over the years owned a few. The call was about the engines he still had and he was looking at selling them.

He was wondering how best to dispose them and what sort of money to ask. The upshot was I agreed to have a look at them and see what I thought.

I called around and what I saw actually took my breath away. All engines were restored had been runners and most were on trolleys, all were small marine engines except one which was a Yanmar diesel and another a Onan 12 v generator. Like many marine engines they were two strokes and some were makes I had never heard of. This is outside of my expertise and can't help on values. I would like to know what sort of price range they would have in the UK as that would give me an idea what sort of money he could expect to get for them. what you get in the UK mostly equates to what engines sell for here,

I will post the photos with there names

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Old 16-06-17, 10:33 AM   #2
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Nice haul, Never seen a Sachs Wankel in marine configuration.

Ready to be shot down in flames but say 100 - 200 on the Stuart, 200 - 300 on the other two-stroke singles and unfortunately sub 100 on the ELTO - there just seems to be no appetite for old outboards other than Seagulls over here, would almost certainly do better in the 'States.

No idea on the rest.

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Old 16-06-17, 11:18 AM   #3
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Thanks Nick,
My thinking is much the same. I forgot, the Sachs isn't marine , or at least I don't think so.
What model is the Stuart? I do have another photo of it.

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Isn't that a marine type reduction box on the Sachs then?

The Stuart is an R2 or R3 and looking at it again, I don't think it is a marine either - no gearbox or centrifugal clutch and looks like a governor rather than hand throttle. Also converted from flywheel ignition to a conventional magneto at some time so probably lower end of estimate.

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Isn't that a marine type reduction box on the Sachs then?

The Stuart is an R2 or R3 and looking at it again, I don't think it is a marine either - no gearbox or centrifugal clutch and looks like a governor rather than hand throttle. Also converted from flywheel ignition to a conventional magneto at some time so probably lower end of estimate.

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To me it looks like it has been on a charging/generating set Nick, similar drive coupling.

Merv,
The Yanmar will be circa 50-100. Not really historic yet, but still a definite market for them in industrial use.
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Old 17-06-17, 08:43 PM   #6
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As far as the outboard is concerned, yes some are worth more than others and to be honest it's more about what you know, I can look at an old motor and can tell pretty much if it's got all the right parts and if it hasn't, running or not it's given a wide birth, especially at the silly prices sometimes asked.
British outboards, about 99% are common and cheap, but some are worth thousands and most don't know anything about them.
I have a Coventry victor outboard among my 50 other motors, I got it for 100, not that long ago one sold on Ebay for 560.
A cary jet, an Italian motor I get for 60, one sold on Ebay for over 500.
The Last Elto twin I saw, went for around 300, not just seagulls sell over here.
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