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Old 09-01-18, 09:54 AM   #141
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The 1922 Silver Ghost that I used to look after had rear brakes only, quite interesting in the wet!

1925 onwards they had Fronts as well I believe.

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I like that, some owners were probably grumbling front brakes were new fangled unnecessary added complexity and expense. As I recall many cars had cable operated brakes. Best thing was to stay out of the way, I suppose
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Old 09-01-18, 07:52 PM   #142
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Angry Braking system

The Austin Seven braking system until 1930's .
Front cable brakes operated by hand brake and also come on with full lock .
Rear brakes operated by foot pedal so to try and stop its hand and foot pedal together and hope you stop!.

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Old 13-01-18, 07:21 PM   #143
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The Austin Seven braking system until 1930's .
Front cable brakes operated by hand brake and also come on with full lock .
Rear brakes operated by foot pedal so to try and stop its hand and foot pedal together and hope you stop!.

John.
I remember reading the driving manual for the 7 and it said the brakes should only really be used for emergency use and normal driving should be down to engine braking and gears
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Old 31-01-18, 10:32 PM   #144
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I had a phone call tonight offering me an old home built, 5x4 car trailer. Ideal for the lighting set and I happen to be going to the owners place on Saturday.

Having passed my driving test in 2011, I understand that I can tow a trailer up to 750KG MAM, or 3500KG all up train weight.

I can't however find anything useful relating to "un-plated" trailers. The trailer in question has 750kg rated suspension units and if memory serves, it is unbraked. Can anyone make it any clearer please?

Realistically, around 250kg's is the maximum it will carry, but I'd rather know it's all good in the eyes of the local plod!

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Old 31-01-18, 10:36 PM   #145
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A quick phone call to your local police station will answer your question, horses mouth etc.
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Old 31-01-18, 11:08 PM   #146
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I believe if the trailer was made prior to a certain date, that date I am not sure about, then it was legal and did not require plating, things might have moved on in the last few years though,

Tricky one to pin point when a trailer was made I would say.

More info from Parkers

Other legal requirements:

Since 1982 all trailers, including unbraked ones, must be clearly marked with their maximum gross weight in kilograms.
Since January 1, 1997, all unbraked trailer plates must show the year of manufacture.
Department of Transport Code of Practice states that it is desirable for trailers less than 3,500kg gross vehicle to carry a manufacturer's plate clearly showing manufacturer's name and address, chassis or serial number, model number, number of axles, maximum weight per axle, nose weight or coupling, maximum gross weight and date of manufacturer.

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Old 01-02-18, 12:05 AM   #147
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it is desirable
So not mandatory?
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Old 01-02-18, 12:28 AM   #148
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Having passed my driving test in 2011, I understand that I can tow a trailer up to 750KG MAM, or 3500KG all up train weight.


Phill.
Car + trailer is group BE, it should be marked on your licence, if that is not there, you cannot tow.

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Old 01-02-18, 12:40 AM   #149
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Not as simple as that anymore Neil.

B+E would allow me an MAM over 3500kg. B allows me up to 3500kg MAM.

Itís the rules regarding the MAM of an unplated home build trailer that Iím concerned with.

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Old 01-02-18, 12:41 AM   #150
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Car + trailer is group BE, it should be marked on your licence, if that is not there, you cannot tow.

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From DVSA website...

Licences issued from 1 January 1997
If you passed your car driving test on or after 1 January 1997 you can:

drive a car or van up to 3,500kg maximum authorised mass (MAM) towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM
tow a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined MAM of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg
MAM is the limit on how much the vehicle can weigh when itís loaded.

You have to pass the car and trailer driving test if you want to tow anything heavier.


Is B+E for heavier trailers?

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