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Old 28-02-10, 10:29 PM   #21
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Default Dangerous or not

300 cars with 10 gallons of petrol each not a problem,

21 litres of petrol in can not allowed.

300 cars with one battery each not a problem,

10 wet batteries in back of van, Hazardous goods must be declared,

Barrel of whisky 50 gallons hazardous goods must be declared,

1000 bottles of whisky in shop on ferry not hazardous,

the list of comparisons like this is endless, who would be a haulier?
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Old 28-02-10, 10:37 PM   #22
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Hi Frank,
are you planning to bring a barrel of whisky to the Nuenen Rally!?!? sounds good to me!

See you in Nuenen!
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Old 28-02-10, 11:28 PM   #23
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are you planning to bring a barrel of whisky to the Nuenen Rally!?!? sounds good to me!

See you in Nuenen!
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Sorry Anton A barrel of whiskey is hazardous, can't oblige

But you could always make me some outsmiter or uistmiter or however it is you spell it but Ham & eggs will do.

I also have a friend coming from Germany, he said would you like him to bring your grandfathers bicycle back?
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Old 28-02-10, 11:53 PM   #24
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I'd be more than happy to put an LPG sticker in the window if it would do any good, but:-

Petrol tank on the Discovery is plastic. Petrol pipes are plastic, unions are push-on clips. There is an inertia switch to turn off the fuel pump and ignition if you have a whack.

LPG tank is steel, pipes are copper or steel, joints are compression/unions.

In an accident/fire, which one is going to go pop first?

The only real difference I can see is that the gas is under higher pressure than the petrol, but as the petrol pressure in my injection system is 50psi, with plastic pipes etc etc, I know which one I'd be looking to go bang first.

Stena seem to have taken the logical approach, which is that there is no inherent additional hazard in a gas-fuelled vehicle as long as it isn't in an accident, and that shouldn't happen while crossing the North Sea.

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Old 28-02-10, 11:56 PM   #25
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Anton:

If you are looking, is there going to be an increase in the camping area this year?

Things got very crowded indeed last year if you remember.

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Old 01-03-10, 12:57 AM   #26
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Hi Peter,
Yes we will make more space free for the campsite, but as you know last year it was for us the first year on a new site, now we are prepared ( I hope)
This year we will have again the big 2 cylinder Fetu Defize slide valve gas engine, very rare and very nice engine.

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Old 01-03-10, 03:44 PM   #27
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Sorry Anton A barrel of whiskey is hazardous, can't oblige

But you could always make me some outsmiter or uistmiter or however it is you spell it but Ham & eggs will do.

I also have a friend coming from Germany, he said would you like him to bring your grandfathers bicycle back?
Sorry Frank, I can not make a "uitsmijter", I am not a good cook at all.
My grandfather did not have a bicycle, but a Indian-motorcycle, so please ask your German friend to bring back this Indian motorcycle!!!!

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Old 02-06-10, 10:46 AM   #28
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Just an update to this thread for 2010:

There were no inspections for any hazardous goods on arrival at either port, Stena Line accept LPG-fuelled vehicles without a declaration and there is no requirement to turn the tanks off during the trip.

With LPG this year we were able to run the whole trip on gas, we topped up at Newmarket, filled up at Hook of Holland, there's a petrol station just as you drive away from the ferry, about 1 mile or the right-hand side of the road. LPG connectors are the same as in the UK. Did the same on the way back, topped up in Eindhoven and filled up at the same garage at Hook of Holland before waiting for the ferry.

Traffic was not as heavy as last year or the first year, we had a couple of slow moments but no stationary periods apart from traffic lights at each end of the Dutch section.

The new site was expanded for this year's show, camping was more organised and a decent space/roadway left between rows of tents and caravans/motorhomes.

Rita & Philip went shopping in Nuenen on the Saturday, and in future we probably won't bother carrying food over with us, it's just as easy to shop locally.

One thing we will take is some heavier pegs for the Gazebo, as several were blown down in the occasional gusty winds that blew up on the show days.

We also scrapped three of our cheapo camping chairs which collapsed!

Note that the electrical distribution is by 2-pin Euro/Schuko blue connectors, NOT the UK 3-pin type. We have organised a new outdoor type plug for next year, they are available here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/outdoor-conn.../dp/B001T73LUY

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