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Old 27-03-18, 11:17 PM   #1
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Does anyone know what kind of trolley these where fitted to, I'm getting one soon which is fitted to original skids but need to mount it on a trolley and have a the makings of an original bamford trolley (think of a 6hp open crank engine). It is without its timbers but subject to the measurements being ok was going to use some channel as the bearers and sit the skids in the channel. I know I could use the original skids as the bearers but don't want to start drilling holes in them.
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Old 31-03-18, 09:26 AM   #2
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Thought someone might know out there?
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Old 31-03-18, 09:41 AM   #3
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Hello Simon,
I can't tell you if these engines were fitted to trolleys or not. But I do know These engines weigh approximately half a ton.I would have thought they were more likely to have been used on fixed installations.I could of course be totally wrong
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Old 31-03-18, 09:50 AM   #4
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Quite a few picures here that might help...

http://henrybamfordandsonsuttoxetere...uk/renovation/
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Old 01-04-18, 10:31 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I did wonder if only supplied with skids given their bulk , someone else has seen it and thought it might be an sd2 but don't know how much weight difference there is between sd1 and sd2. I would have thought the next step up to an sd3 is the bigger weight difference. how does the weight compare to a Bamford 6hp o/c sure my planned trolley will be fine if weight similar.
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Old 15-05-18, 03:11 PM   #6
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Picked up this morning without a hitch ,been a while waiting for it but very pleased, all there apart from the silencer ( has anyone got one) lovely nick and covered in nice thick layer of oily gunge . Might have to re think the trolley idea as has cross member timbers which I never saw when looked at it ages ago. It is an sd1 but they are lumps.
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Old 15-05-18, 03:55 PM   #7
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My Z2 was a very similar "lump" to Your SD1. The trolley it came on was probably original, certainly looked like it with the rear axle cast brackets and the steering axle pivot assembly. That was channel iron on edge with wood above. I thought that it didn't look or feel right with the steering axle under the engine so I turned it round and shortened it a bit, then it was far better.

My "Oil Engine Manual" says that the SD1 weighs 1090lbs (494.4 kg), The SD2 weighs 1170lbs (530.7kg) and the SD3 weighs 1275 lbs (578.3kg).
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Old 15-05-18, 04:37 PM   #8
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Can't really tell from the pictures Charles, but that ironwork looks a lot like Petter to me...?




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It could very well be from Petter's. I'd seen another Z2 sitting on an identical trolley elsewhere so supposed that it was a Bamford trolley. One feature that I thought was distinctive was that the pivot pin on the "front" axle wasn't "in line" with the axle so the wheelbase could be altered by about 4 inches by jacking the front up and turning the axle round, which I thought a little strange for such a heavy engine. It must have put a bit of stress on the pivot block.

By the way, Paul (woodsman) I get HTTP 500 error when I click on Your posted link to Bamfords.
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Old 15-05-18, 10:18 PM   #10
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By the way, Paul (woodsman) I get HTTP 500 error when I click on Your posted link to Bamfords.
So do I - it worked when Paul posted it. Perhaps that little project has come off the rails?

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